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Wednesday, May 03, 2006

The end of the blogs?

The short answer …

The following comments appeared in the Chronicle last week in relation to blogs commenting on the Toowoomba City Council's controversial recycled sewage project:

"A spokeswoman for Local Government Minister Desley Boyle said because Toowoomba’s poll would be run under the provisions of the Local Government Act, all election material would be subject to it. That included advertisements, pamphlets, handbills and information published on the Internet, which legally would have to provide contact details authorising them.


“If these sites remained online within the election period and contained opinions designed to influence the outcome of the poll, they would be considered election materials and would need to include a contact name and address,” the spokeswoman said.

The accuracy of these comments is questionable.

Each blog will need to form its own view on any legal restrictions but here's one view:

While there is an internet authorisation requirement for elections under the Qld Electoral Act, there is no equivalent provision for a referendum under the Qld Referendums Act nor is one set out in the provisions of the Qld Local Government Act which are deemed to apply to a referendum.

The fact that, in 2002, the State government amended section 74 of the Referendums Act to extend the misleading material provision to include material on the internet but did not amend the authorisation requirement under section 72 of the Referendums Act indicates that they never intended the internet authorisation provision to apply to a referendum. Or they just stuffed it up.

Even if the internet provisions applied under the Local Government Act or the Referendums Act, it is questionable whether commentary on a blog would fall within the meaning of “election matter”.

In 2005, a Federal Parliamentary Inquiry Committee recommended that the Australian Electoral Commission devise authorisation requirements for electoral advertisements, as distinct from general commentary, on the internet. The Committee acknowledged that regulation of internet communications presents a number of practical problems, making the application of authorisation requirements to the internet cumbersome and perhaps unenforceable.

As part of any demand that blogs follow internet authorisation requirements during the referendum period, the Qld Local Government Department should also request that newspapers publish the name and street address details of their letter writers and that talkback radio hosts state the name and street address of their callers following each call.

The Local Government Department should also trawl through the comments in the myriad chatrooms to ensure that anyone commenting on the Toowoomba Water Futures project during the referendum period states their name and address details as part of any comment. Newspapers which publish readers’ SMS comments should also publish the readers’ names and street addresses.

The failure to apply a common approach to all forms of media would indicate an attempt by State government officials to harass particular blogs in an attempt to stifle political debate.

The Toowoomba City Council and the Qld Local Government Department now risk the debate over recycled sewage for drinking purposes in Toowoomba taking a sharp turn into the areas of constitutional law and civil liberties ...

14 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the only way we have been able to get our information out and will continue to do so.
This is a council who are afraid to talk to their community at a Public Meeting while our mayor goes around the country promoting her mad scheme.
Come on come out and talk to your people.

5:39 AM, May 03, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nobody is forcing anybody to log on the blogs and making them read them. It's like people who complain about movies they don't agree with.
You don't have to go and watch those movies if you don't want to and you don't have to read the blogs either.
Council only want the blogs stopped because they are gathering momentum and they are getting the truth out.

9:05 AM, May 03, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The funny thing is that this community has already made up there minds. It happened long ago when we were told to drink recycled effluent or buy bottled water. Stiffling our discussion avenues and trying to muffle our opinnions is just going to make this community more angry and lead to a larger no vote.

10:27 AM, May 03, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For a council which says it doesn't monitor the blogs, they seem really worried about them. Is it because the truth is coming out about their decisions, the mayor's trips, the problems with their recycled water project and they can't control it?

11:02 AM, May 03, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Council's advisers will have told them that to 'educate' the people you need to control the info flow and the blogs stop them doing this. It makes them madder than hell and there's nothing they can do about it other than complaining to the local govt dept in Brisbane.

11:19 AM, May 03, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Funny we have to close because they think we will sway the voting, yet the TCC is allowed to advertise VOTE YES and all these new fancy so called findings saying the water is safe. Now we have scientist saying the water will prevent a disease in male babies, what a great way to try and tell us to be quiet when they are still pounding the facts they can't prove to sway the voting their way, what a democracy this is...

I agree with Jaun and many others, it's time we vote on a council referendum and get rid of the people trying to destroy our way of life here in Australia, because if a YES vote wins, not only will Toowoomba be drinking sewage water, so will other towns accros the country. We will end being called POOstralia (or better yet, I come from the POO down under), is it really worth it to have our country over run with such a thought, that no matter where you go, you'll be drinking some else’s waste, piss and shit, and lord knows what else.

Water molecules can be contaminated; it's fast YES vote lie to state that we can remove all these chemicals, salts poisons, and bacteria from water....

Before we end up as a communist country, VOTE NO or we'll never see FRESH RAIN water again!

I am shocked that nobody has gotten so mad that Thorley and her gang of crims have not been assaulted yet. I mean that in a sense of anger, not violence.

7:59 PM, May 03, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The feeling in the community is one of outrage. Outrage that the Council thinks it can dictate terms to the community, that it can ignore the community and fail to hold public meetings and debate the issue while the Mayor flies at ratepayers' expense to yet more conferences to advertise the services of the recycled water companies.

8:22 PM, May 03, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Long live the blogs and council accountability!

8:30 PM, May 03, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If it were not for blogs then we would not be able to let the community know that NOW the engineer states as of to-day that this city would have enough water until 2015 and if we get recycled sewage water then it would be OK until 2030.That's if it dose not rain.
Where the hell did all that extra water come from ,come on KEV tell the truth and let the people off the hook. They have been worried out of their minds and all the time there is this amount of water.
This level 5 restriction is a joke!!!
This lot should be thrown out.
LIES, LIES !!!

8:49 PM, May 03, 2006

 
Blogger Concerned Ratepayer said...

So that's today's story from the Council is it?!

Council has zero credibility with the community!

8:50 PM, May 03, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shame on the council. Scamming the Toowoomba people like this.

1:08 PM, May 04, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They are not only scamming Toowoomba, but the whole of Australia, this is not going to be just a local thing. Beattie is for recycled sewage don't forget, so if it goes off here, it will also go off elsewhere, and that will leave Beattie with is many dams to cater for Brisbane and the Gold Coast only, while the rest of the country dries up and drinks thier own watse water.

The most intelligent thing to do here, is use recycled water for Industry, Farming and Dual Pipes to new housing estates (Toilet use). But that would wouldn't ethical now would it.

The TCC does not care about our oppinion unless it's a YES, that says enough for me and my family.

I hope Thorley gets strandard in Perth and can't come back.

1:59 PM, May 04, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How is this, the TCC states that will now be publically humiliate people who break the water restriction, buy placing their details in the Chronicle! Now if I am correct, isn’t that against the law unless they have permission from the offender. Not even COPS can post pictures of criminals unless they have a wanted warrant on them. It seems the council are now ABOVE THE LAW, and I feel like breaking the restriction just to fight them in court, as they would lose big time for publishing my details (which includes my person) in a public paper. The Chronicle better step on this quick smart or they will also end up in court over publishing of a person or person’s details without prior consent. Are you ready to battle in court Chronicle, or has Thorley paid you off. Another reason why BLOGS will stay up, the law will not tolerate this much longer.

Thorley better watch her back is all I got to say and of course a BIG FAT NO!

5:43 PM, May 04, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The blogs are free speech - if the state government wants to crack down on them they are no better than Singapore or some third world dictatorship

6:23 PM, May 04, 2006

 

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