Update on the SBS Insight program on recycling v. desalination.
Mayor Thorley held her own - which you would expect for a seasoned politician. At times, she didn't let others speak - which you would also expect from a seasoned politician ("DI THORLEY: No, I will butt in on you, and I don't have much problem doing that at the moment.")
The live online debate should be renamed the "lively debate" as there was plenty of spirited discussion following the program.
Interesting comment from the online session on the Mayor's factual accuracy:
"I manage the Dalby water supply. Di Thorley does not have her facts straight. Very little of Dalby's water comes from the river so is rarely impacted by Toowoomba's wastewater. Generally less than 10% pa comes from the Condamine. Most of the water is used by irrigators before it gets to our storage."
This was a response to this comment from Mayor Thorley:
"DI THORLEY: No, but I'm just trying to check up that all the blokes in Dalby don't get really cheesed at us saying they've got small penises and they're feminised because we've been putting this water down for 70 years so I'm really worried that when I get home they're going to belt me up because I let it go through. So let's put it out there that the boys are fine in Dalby. I'll just stick up for them here. And they're not growing boobs so they'll be happy with that. Look, no, I don't think I am. And it is really simple for them to sit here and come up with some of the stuff - I hear about a project I took in 2001 and that was one that was to take water to the irrigators and water to Ackland coal, it was not about cleaning up any water at all. And at the time, the minister, our minister said that it wasn't a project that stacked up, they weren't going to put water in pipelines to irrigators and that was it. But to go back to the community... "
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SBS Insight.
And then there was this comment from the program in relation to the draft National Guidelines for Recycled Water released last Friday:
"DAVID CUNLIFFE, WATER HEALTH EXPERT: I'm part of the team that's helped develop the draft national guidelines for water recycling that were issued late last week, they're out for consultation. At this stage they don't specifically deal with indirect potable re-use."
And this comment in relation to recycled water in Western Australia:
"JIM GILL: We've got some trials under way injecting treated wastewater into acquifers and ultimately we could use those for drinking water. But we're determined to get the science right before we do that and that's going to take quite a few years."
So isn't it a bit early for Toowoomba to start drinking it?
I must take issue with something Ian Kiernan said:
"IAN KIERNAN: I agree with both of you that we need to look at all of these options and we did that through the expert water panel. But at the same time, desal was the least favoured option because it will be exacerbating climate change through its energy consumption and we know that from the Saudi example of a major desal plant against the Singapore major sewage recovery plant, that the Saudi plant, even with subsidised oil, was twice as expensive as the Singapore plant."
If Singapore's recycling plant is so cost effective compared to the cost of desalination plants, why did Singapore just build a desalination plant (opened 13 September 2005)?
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New desalination plant for Singapore.
As expected, the Mayor played the "NEWater party trick" - dragging out some bottles of Singapore NEWater for people to drink. She never seems to understand that it's not what you can smell that's the problem - it's what you can't smell and what the Federal government reports say could still be in the water that is the concern.
The results of the poll were not as some recyclers predicted or wanted - an overwhelming majority of those polled preferred desalination to recycled water. Remember this wasn't the online poll which was subject to manipulation.
"JENNY BROCKIE: Alright, well as I mentioned a little earlier, with the help of Newspoll we've conducted our own national survey on water, and we surveyed 700 Australians across five capital cities. Asked whether they would feel safer drinking desalinated water or recycled waste water,
the majority, 61% said they would feel safer drinking desalinated water. Only 21% feels safe with the idea of drinking recycled waste water. Interestingly, men feel significantly safer drinking recycled water than women, which in the light of some of the comments about alligators earlier is interesting. And Sydneysiders seem to feel safer drinking recycled water than Australians in other cities. I think those results are pretty interesting, Ian Kiernan. You've got a big job on your hands selling this to people, haven't you?"
Perhaps the results may have been different if those polled were fully informed about each option or if they were asked: would you prefer recycled water once the Federal government has resolved all health risks referred to in their recent reports.
Maybe someone could explain what a "sweet bippy" is?!?