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Sunday, October 26, 2008
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For many years, the 4350water blog has informed readers of plans by the Toowoomba City Council (now Toowoomba Regional Council) and the Qld government to introduce recycled water for drinking in Toowoomba. It has also looked at the issue from a State and Federal perspective and dealt with related State and Federal political issues. There continues to be a need for the Toowoomba Regional Council to be completely transparent in its dealings with the ratepayers and residents of Toowoomba. There also continues to be a need for open debate on the benefits and risks of potable reuse and long-term studies on the effects on humans of drinking recycled water. Coal seam gas water is emerging as a possible alternate water source for some uses for the region. The 4350water blog is a collective effort and thanks go to its many contributors.
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9 Comments:
Surely while Americans are in the mess they are in they will not vote for a black man with a name like he should come from the middle east!
There may be a shock outcome yet.
They need experience not change.
8:51 AM, October 26, 2008
Wow that just has to be the most ignorant racist comment ever posted on this blog - playing to all the Republican party stereotypes!
Would you really want McCain and Palin in the White House? Would you want Palin as President if something happens to McCain?
Palin's ability to lie about everything makes Di Thorley look like a nun. Some of Palin's views show that she'd be more extreme than Bush. Have you seen her being blessed against witchcraft?
Would you really want the Republicans in office for another 4 or 8 years after the mess the Republicans have created in the past 8 years? Isn't the world economy in enough of a mess? Aren't there too many wars already?
If you want to know a bit more about McCain, read the Rolling Stone magazine article. If you have followed the campaign, you would know that this is not McCain of 2000. His negative campaign shows his true colours. For McCain to adopt the same style of robocalls used successfully against him by Bush in the 2000 Primary shows the mark of the man.
Obama may or may not be the answer but McCain and Palin certainly aren't.
10:25 AM, October 26, 2008
Interviewer: Do you agree with the Bush Doctrine?
Palin: Please explain.
Ask her about the use of fruit flies in medical research.
Palin = experience? LOL
10:48 AM, October 26, 2008
When this blog site move into USA politics?! What happen to the discussion re Toowomba water supply?
11:02 AM, October 26, 2008
4350water blog is quick and nimble and moves across a number of topics from time to time.
11:09 AM, October 26, 2008
New York Times:
YouTube Videos Draw Attention to Palin’s Faith
October 24, 2008
In an interview this week with the Christian Broadcasting Network, Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska, the Republican vice-presidential candidate, was asked to “clear up exactly what you believe in” about her religious faith, including her involvement with Pentecostalism.
Governor Sarah Palin's faith has come under scrutiny after two videos surfaced on YouTube, including this one from June in which Bishop Thomas Muthee of Kenya prays over her with his hand to her back.
Ms. Palin responded by speaking generally, but extensively, about how she counts on God for strength, guidance and wisdom. “My faith has always been pretty personal,” she said. But she did not talk more specifically about her church affiliation or her beliefs.
Ms. Palin’s faith has come under scrutiny after two videos taken in her former church surfaced on YouTube and became immediate sensations. The first showed a visiting preacher from Kenya praying fervently over Ms. Palin in a gravelly voice and asking God to favor her campaign for governor and protect her from “every form of witchcraft.”
The second showed Ms. Palin at an event in June praising the African preacher’s prayer as “awesome” and “very, very powerful.” She is also seen nodding as her former pastor from Wasilla prays over her and declares that Alaska is “one of the refuge states in the Last Days,” a piece of prophecy popular in some prayer networks that predicts that as the “end times” approach, people will flock to Alaska for its abundant open space and natural resources.
Ms. Palin declined an interview, and the McCain campaign did not respond to specific questions about her faith. Thus, it is difficult to say with certainty what she believes.
What is known, however, is that Ms. Palin has had long associations with religious leaders who practice a particularly assertive and urgent brand of Pentecostalism known as “spiritual warfare.”
Its adherents believe that demonic forces can colonize specific geographic areas and individuals, and that “spiritual warriors” must “battle” them to assert God’s control, using prayer and evangelism. The movement’s fixation on demons, its aggressiveness and its leaders’ claims to exalted spiritual authority have troubled even some Pentecostal Christians.
Ms. Palin delivered an enthusiastic graduation speech for a class of young spiritual warriors in June at the Wasilla Assembly of God, the church in which she was raised.
As governor, Ms. Palin appointed Patrick Donelson, a pastor and fishing guide who helped found a spiritual warfare ministry, to the only seat reserved for members of the clergy on the state’s Suicide Prevention Council.
Bishop Thomas Muthee, the Kenyan preacher shown on the YouTube video anointing her as she ran for governor, is celebrated internationally as an effective spiritual warrior who led a prayer movement that drove a witch out of his town in Kenya. The removal of the witch, Bishop Muthee says, resulted in a drop in crime, alcoholism and traffic accidents.
Religious leaders in Alaska, including Mr. Donelson, declined interviews, with several saying they had been told by the McCain-Palin campaign not to talk to members of the news media.
Russell P. Spittler, provost emeritus at Fuller Theological Seminary in Pasadena, Calif., and an eminent scholar of Pentecostalism, said, “Most Christians would accept the view that there are forces and powers in the world that oppose Christian virtues.” But, Mr. Spittler added, “Spiritual warfare makes a religion of identifying demons by names and ZIP codes.”
Promoters of spiritual warfare say its vocabulary sounds more militant than its methods.
“The term ‘spiritual warfare’ sounds scary as all get-out if you’re not biblically literate,” said George Otis Jr., president of the Sentinel Group, in Seattle, which has helped spread the movement by producing video documentaries of spiritual warfare at work.
“It’s taken from the sixth chapter of Ephesians, which talks about that the weapons of our warfare are not of this world,” Mr. Otis said. “Which means, we don’t respond with guns or violence. If we’ve got a problem with somebody, we’ll go pray.”
Critics say the goal of the spiritual warfare movement is to create a theocracy. Bruce Wilson, a researcher for Talk2Action, a Web site that tracks religious groups, said: “One of the imperatives of the movement is to achieve worldly power, including political control. Then you can more effectively drive out the demons. The ultimate goal is to purify the earth.”
Ms. Palin referred to “prayer warriors” in a radio interview Wednesday with Dr. James C. Dobson, the founder of Focus on the Family, a conservative Christian multimedia ministry. Dr. Dobson told Ms. Palin that he and his wife, Shirley, were praying for her, and that they had convened 430 people last weekend to pray for “God’s perfect will to be done on Nov. 4.”
She responded, “I can feel the power of prayer and the strength that is provided by our prayer warriors across this nation.”
Ms. Palin was baptized a Roman Catholic as an infant, but when she was young, her mother took the family to the Wasilla Assembly of God church. That church is part of the Assemblies of God, a Pentecostal denomination with 2.8 million members in the United States and 60 million worldwide.
Pentecostalism is the fastest-growing form of Christianity, both in the United States and internationally. Pentecostals believe that the Holy Spirit can touch believers directly through spiritual “gifts” like speaking in tongues, divine healings, casting out demons and the ability to prophesize. Spiritual warfare is only one stream running through Pentecostal and charismatic churches.
Since Ms. Palin left the Wasilla Assembly of God church six years ago, she has not joined another church. Of the four churches she has attended most frequently, three are either Pentecostal or “charismatic.” The latter is a church that adopts Pentecostal practices but is not part of a Pentecostal denomination.
Ms. Palin has retained friendly relations with the pastor at the Wasilla Assembly of God church, Ed Kalnins. In June, she and other politicians were blessed by Mr. Kalnins in front of thousands at “One Lord Sunday,” a multichurch-sponsored event at the Wasilla sports complex.
The governor’s relationships with practitioners of spiritual warfare appear to go back many years. Mary Glazier, an Alaska Native who helped bring together the prayer warrior networks in the state, told a prayer conference in June that Ms. Palin “became a part of our prayer group out in Wasilla” when she was 24, and that “God began to speak” to her about entering politics.
Ms. Glazier did not respond to messages left at her office. But a friend of hers, J. Lee Grady, the editor of Charisma magazine, said Mrs. Glazier recently told him that when Ms. Palin was in her 20s, she was part of her prayer network.
Mr. Grady, whose magazine reports on and promotes charismatic Christianity, and other Pentecostal leaders said they had been deeply troubled by portrayals of Ms. Palin’s religious beliefs as bizarre or scary.
“We wouldn’t have a problem with the fact that this African pastor prays for her and believes Jesus is more powerful than demonic activity,” he said.
11:15 AM, October 26, 2008
McCain voted with Bush 90 per cent of the time. McCain = 4 more years of Bush.
1:03 PM, October 26, 2008
"News of tensions within the McCain camp comes after polls suggested Palin - who electrified the party base when named as running mate in August - is now dragging down the Republican ticket 10 days from the November 4 election.
A Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll released on Wednesday found that Americans are less and less convinced she is worthy to serve as the country's number two leader.
"Her numbers have plummeted in our poll ... what's more 55 per cent think she's unqualified to serve as president if the need arises, which is a troublesome number given McCain's age," said NBC political director Chuck Todd.
It confirmed the findings of an ABC/Washington Post poll released earlier this month which found that six in 10 voters saw Palin, 44, as lacking the experience to be an effective president. "A third are now less likely to vote for McCain because of her," the Post added.
After being found guilty of abusing her power as governor in the so-called "troopergate" scandal over the firing of her ex-brother-in-law, Palin now faces a second probe over whether she violated ethics rules in the affair."
1:36 PM, October 26, 2008
You would think McCain is a walking corpse following this discussion - then again sadly he may. The way the world is going, old Bin Laden must be laughing in his cave - he does not have to do anything - the recession and stock markets around the world are dong it for him.
And even with this, the Climate Change babble goes on - how ridiculous
11:19 PM, October 27, 2008
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