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Thursday, November 27, 2008

SEQ - Recycled water still on cards within six months ...

Excerpt from Courier Mail:

Recycled water still on cards within six months

27 November 2008

Southeast Queensland residents could be drinking recycled water within six months, following advice from the Queensland Water Commission.

The commission advised the State Government that recycled water should be added to supplies when dam levels fall to 40 per cent.

The 40 per cent trigger point is identical to the one given to the Government early last year despite the fact average household water use has fallen significantly.

Premier Anna Bligh had given strong indications that the trigger level should drop after she ditched her Government's plans for unfettered use of recycled water. Dam levels are hovering at 46 per cent and would hit 40 per cent by May without significant summer rain.

Infrastructure Minister Paul Lucas last night said the region had positive prospects of summer rain.

Mr Lucas would not speculate on when recycled water would be added.

"That's not for me, I'm not a scientist," he said.

The Government will release the QWC's advice in Parliament today while the commission will now develop a trigger point for when to switch the recycled water tap off. Mr Lucas denied the QWC had defied the Premier, saying the commission had offered independent advice and that was accepted by the Government.

"This is about understanding that the people, a number of them, have expressed concerns about purified recycled water," Mr Lucas said.

"The Government is listening to that.

"It is not in relation to the science, it is in relation to community concerns, we are listening to that. That is about being a listening government."

Earlier, Ms Bligh conceded many industries were likely to snub recycled water because it was too expensive or bad for business.

"In many cases it is simply not economic," she said.

"In other cases it depends on the nature of the industry - some of the food producing industries for example, are less likely, I think, to be people who would want to sign up."

However, Ms Bligh believed over the next 20 years more industries would be attracted to recycling.

Opposition Leader Lawrence Springborg claimed the Government's water policy was an "utter shambles" but refused to name the level dams would have to fall to for his own emergency recycled water plan to be triggered.

"I am not even getting into trigger points because we have got that there as an absolute last resort only," he said.

Mr Springborg also said if elected he would consider scrapping the QWC because he claimed the authority had failed to act independently.


See - Recycled water still on cards within six months.

If there is one thing that the QWC is not - it's the term 'independent'.

And what is Anna Bligh smoking?

She thinks the food industries won't want recycled water but she wants to put it into Wivenhoe Dam where it will make its way into most food industries in SEQ ...

10 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just watch the environmental flows from Wivenhoe to the Brisbane River increase to achieve their 40%

They will just let it go, the same as Toowoomba was doing at Cressbrook Dam a couple years ago.
40 megalitres a day ! for environmental flows.

I beleive they just wanted to empty the dam so Toowoomba would except recycled sewage. Toowoomba still refused to accept it at the vote.
Does anybody know how much water is used per/day to run the hydro power station at Wivenhoe?
I read it runs 24/7!

8:44 AM, November 27, 2008

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The Government would continue trying to sell recycled water to industry, to take them off the main supply, although Ms Bligh said she did not expect the food industry to be interested. ..."

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24713259-5013945,00.html

ANNA - you have it RIGHT - Recycled Water may not be interesting to the food industry - but lets go further - it may also not be interesting to the tourism industry - or to future migration in SEQ - which in turn hurts the building industry - and guess what the thought of drinking WASTE is not even interesting to most residents who actually live in SEQ right NOW and VOTE

- so please just SCRAP the idea of forcing people to drink HIGH VOLUMES of recycled sewage, hospital and industrial waste - it's NOT a WELCOME or WELL THOUGHT OUT PLAN.

- It may be interesting to UQ and the QWC - but the question there is WHY???

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,,24701883-5013945,00.html

8:50 AM, November 27, 2008

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As HINZE DAM is now part of SEQ water - and part of the SEQ water grid - Shouldn't it be added to the SEQ water % totals (?) - if you do - you get a combined figure for the dams of over 49% - What other water storages in SEQ are on the grid now???

http://www.seqwater.com.au/newsite/index.php?option=com_damlevels&Itemid=8

9:06 AM, November 27, 2008

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Govt denies recycled water trigger decision embarrassing ... http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/11/27/2430926.htm

9:17 AM, November 27, 2008

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

so has the QWC said when the tap get turned off again (?) 41 % 42 % 50 % 60 % 100% ... i would like to know !!!

11:05 AM, November 27, 2008

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Qld may have recycled water by May -

A letter from QWC chair Elizabeth Nosworthy to Deputy Premier Paul Lucas said the 40 per cent trigger should remain as the emergency trigger to augment water supplies.

The letter said recycled water should be ready to be added to Wivenhoe Dam as early as May 2009.

"The commission's short-term water balance modelling indicates that, under worst case inflows, Wivenhoe, Somerset and North Pine dams could reduce to the proposed trigger level of 40 per cent of combined storage capacity by as early as May 2009," Ms Nosworthy wrote.

But a "stand down" trigger for the use of recycled water would be set at a later stage, taking into account water costs, water balance and climatic conditions, Ms Nosworthy wrote.

http://news.theage.com.au/national/qld-may-have-recycled-water-by-may-20081127-6jep.html

11:19 AM, November 27, 2008

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Firstly the water used to run the hydro station at wivehoe is pumped up off peak and run during peak demand, thus it doesn't actually use water in terms of "water use".

Environmental flows are required to maintain ecosystems. Look at the death of the Murray River as an example.

As humans we all believe we are entitled to destroy the environment simply to have water for our use. There has to be some equality to its use. Saying that the government is pushing a conspiracy to waste water down to 40% is ludicrous. Its in their own political interest not to hit the 40% target.

Basically rainfall and storage capacity is not enough to meet demand, something needs to be done.

2:46 PM, November 27, 2008

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Drinking recycled WASTE water is not considered to be a solution - to the majority of people in SEQ - so as we live in a democracy - those in power will have to come up with something else - and the LNP seem to agree.

4:41 PM, November 27, 2008

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Anonymous said @ 2.46pm.

Do you know what the future yearly environmental realeases are from Wivenhoe?
Cressbrook I think was around 2300 million litres.

5:08 PM, November 27, 2008

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

@ Anonymouse at 5:08 PM

No i dont know and had a quick look but cant find any information. What must be remembered is that the water from wivenhoe is released and then flows down to Mt Crosby where it is treated for drinking water. The environmental flow therefore is (assuming minimal evaporation) the draw down at Mt Crosby and the flow over/trhough the Mt Crosby weir, which if i recall correctly isn't that much compared to wivenhoes releases(based on the times i spent fishing there).

9:46 AM, November 28, 2008

 

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