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Saturday, December 02, 2006

Why the SEQ referendum is a farce ...

Excerpt from the Courier Mail:

Only short-term support

2 December 2006

Southeast Queensland's mayors are largely supportive of plans to put recycled water into dams, but some would rather not drink it forever.

A vote of 19 council areas will be held in March to gauge public attitudes to recycled water, though the specific question remains undetermined.

If a yes vote is successful, recycled water will be added to the southeast's supply from 2009.
But if not, the Government can still turn to recycled water in an "emergency" situation.


Premier Peter Beattie yesterday suggested 10 per cent as a reasonable proportion of recycled water to be permanently added to drinking supplies if the plebiscite is passed.

But a survey of the 18 members of the Council of Mayors reveals that a third would prefer recycled water only in the case of emergency.

The majority – nine mayors, mostly urban – supported the concept, although many wanted it to go to agriculture and industry first.

Three mayors would not reveal their position: Yvonne Chapman (Pine Rivers); John Brent (Boonah); Joe Natoli (Maroochy).

The Courier-Mail survey found the question of recycled water was far more complicated than the simple Yes/No referendum proposed by the Beattie Government in March.

In an unusual move, the result of the public plebiscite would be non-binding on the government and the No vote would be considered a Yes vote in the case of an emergency where there was no other water option.

That prompted some, such as Gold Coast Mayor Ron Clarke, to say the question appeared to be so confusing voters should put an "asterisk" next to their Yes vote to notify of conditions.

"The asterisk should indicate that I am voting 'Yes' provided the Government can guarantee it is safe," he said. "But I don't believe this is an issue that should be decided by a popular vote. It is either safe to be put into the water supply or it isn't."

Noosa Mayor Bob Abbott said he had been running a pro-recycled water campaign for six months.

But Brisbane Lord Mayor Campbell Newman and Redland Mayor Don Seccombe said they would support it in an emergency and only after other alternatives were tried.

"I would prefer to see the recycled water going to industry first to free up drinking water," Cr Newman said.

Many mayors said they would not try to direct public opinion one way or another unless their council voted to take a stand.

Logan Mayor Graham Able said his council would consider the issue within a fortnight.

"I don't have any hangups over recycled provided it is properly treated, but I won't be telling people what decision to make," he said.

Many rural mayors opposed the concept altogether but conceded it might be necessary.

"Our belief in Gatton is really simple," Steve Jones said. "At this stage we believe recycled water should be used principally for agriculture and industry."

Esk Mayor Graeme Lehmann agreed but conceded "you can't put your head in the sand".
"I will vote the way my community wants me to," he said.


Beaudesert Mayor Joy Drescher said she would accept it as a last resort but reserved her opinion until she saw the referendum.

"The devil is always in the detail," she said. "I would rather see it used for purposes that would not offend people."

Ipswich Mayor Paul Pisasale said a strong education program was needed.

"It is not the history of the water, it is about the quality of the water," he said.

"Let's hope this whole debate is based on facts and not on emotions."

Premier Peter Beattie has suggested 10 per cent as a reasonable proportion of recycled water to be added to drinking supplies if a plebiscite is successful next year.
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He further said the plebiscite question might include the percentage supply, but again the public opinion could be subject to change in an "Armageddon situation".

An education campaign is expected to be launched by the Water Commission ahead of the vote, with Mr Beattie claiming the vote should be based on science.

"We have to recognise that there is a yes and no position on this and we have to be fair," he said.

"While I don't agree with the no case, and neither does Anna (Bligh), they have a right to have their argument put to the people and that is why the independent body, the Water Commission, will put those arguments."

Opposition leader Jeff Seeney said the Coalition would determine its view on recycled water at its next joint meeting.

But he claimed the "drip feed" of information about recycled water from the Government was designed to deflect attention away from the Gordon Nuttall loans scandal.

"I'm very sceptical about the whole recycled water issue," he said.

"It's a political diversion. The whole issue is being made up as Peter Beattie goes along.

"Something as profound as drinking recycled sewerage needs to be planned a lot more extensively than this obliviously has.

"We've got no detail ... it's a different proposition to what we had a couple of weeks ago."

And it was also announced yesterday that a pipeline would be built from Lake Wivenhoe to supply Toowoomba and surrounding shires with emergency water.

See - Recycled water referendum is a farce.

4 Comments:

Blogger Greg said...

I thought a pipeline from Wivenhoe to Toowoomba was out of the question MR Beattie, when we wanted it you said "NO". Pulling more swifties on us here are you? Perhaps you need more no votes, is that what you want because we haven't changed our minds and we will now give you them come March!

1:04 AM, December 02, 2006

 
Blogger Water Hawk said...

There is no detail because they are making it up as they go.
People up on the range can give lessons in the details of water sourced from the back end of a sewage plant.

We challenge Premier Beattie to an open debate on the subject and see if he can handle it. When the Poll was conducted in Toowoomba our Mayor NEVER made an appearance as she left it to her experts and when they were put under pressure they did not have the answers for the people.
They expect you to trust the scientists and we already know the Premier has doubts when it comes to scientists as he so eloquently put his argument about nuclear power.

The people deserve to have confidence in that the leader knows what he is talking about before he asks them to vote on a farcical solution to our water problem.

7:54 AM, December 02, 2006

 
Blogger Concerned Ratepayer said...

From the Australian (annotated):

Pete poses a recycled question
by Michael McKenna

2 December 2006

Peter Beattie finally took the plunge on Thursday, announcing that southeast Queensland residents will vote in March on whether they will drink treated sewage.

The referendum of two million people in the region, stretching from the NSW border to the back of Noosa and west to Toowoomba, will be a divisive, emotional debate - with far more promise of a close contest than in the recent state election.

The change in the timing of the vote - originally set for 2008 - reveals the seriousness of the problem, with the drought pushing down Brisbane's water storage levels to a record low of about 22 per cent.

But it also shows Beattie's political radar is still finely tuned, despite the lure of complacency after his landslide win at the September poll and the comparative quiet of the looming festive season.

Why would the Premier, with little hope of rain during the summer months, want the question hanging over his head next year as his Government plays catch-up on much needed water infrastructure, especially when there is the chance to exploit coalition infighting over the issue?

In recent weeks, coalition and Nationals leader Jeff Seeney and Liberal leader Bruce Flegg - two people who seem to agree on very little - have publicly clashed over whether recycled water should be added to drinking water. While Flegg said the Liberals would support its use, a comment privately contradicted later by some of his MPs, Seeney insisted it should only be supported in a worst-case scenario.

That was the stated view of Beattie - only in an "armageddon" situation - until Thursday's announcement, which could lead to the permanent use of treated sewage in the supply, regardless of the levels. The coalition is reserving its judgement until the referendum question is released.

Many experts and Opposition MPs see the referendum as little more than a public relations exercise, given the recent government statements that it will use recycled water in an emergency situation.

Beattie doesn't need a referendum to introduce recycled water. But a yes vote - which is possible despite Toowoomba residents voting against a similar proposal - will give him a populist fallback.

Forget the years of the Beattie Government's neglect in not building the necessary infrastructure to help cope with the drought: the people, Beattie will argue, support his plan to deal with the situation.

Brisbane Lord Mayor Campbell Newman put it bluntly: "It sounds like a case of heads it (recycled water) goes into the system, and tails it goes into the system, but we are going to ask your point of view anyway."

There will be the expected alarmists opposing the referendum, although former Nationals leader Lawrence Springborg's pre-election claims it could change the sex of fish are unlikely to be repeated.

New figures, revealed in The Weekend Australian today, confirm that while Brisbane's water supply is disappearing, Queensland is exporting more electricity to NSW from generators drawing water from the city's main water source, the Wivenhoe Dam.

The success or failure of the referendum, like the vote on the republic, will probably go down to the wording of the question.

But it doesn't really matter. Even if the no vote wins, Beattie has said recycled water can be used in an emergency situation, which is exactly what is looming.

Beattie has yet to spell out exactly what percentage of recycled water would enter the Wivenhoe system, the region's main water supply, but said yesterday he was tending towards 10 per cent, the proportion used in cities such as London. [Funny!]

If the recycled water plan succeeds, south east Queenslanders could be drinking purified recycled water as early as December 2008, when a large pipeline to Wivenhoe Dam is completed. [So no testing period!]

10:49 AM, December 02, 2006

 
Blogger Greg said...

Do not drink

5:55 PM, December 02, 2006

 

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